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		<title>By: David B</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/01/31/mitt-and-huck-time-to-team-up/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane,

I think Doug Phillips really gives us something to think about here - see if you (and others here) don't agree.  By what Principle do we cast our vote ?


Who Should Be Lord of Super Tuesday ?

More important than who wins or looses the 2008 election is this: Will Christians look to the Bible as their absolute standard for determining what principles must guide their voting practices? Will the Scriptures govern our thinking and consequently our actions. At stake is far more than the presidency. The question concerns the conscience of the Church. We can “win” an election, and yet sell our spiritual birthright. Conversely, we can “lose” an election, yet remain faithful to the Word of God, thus preserving the conscience of the body of Christ, and enjoying the favor of the Lord. 


Elections matter. They matter a great deal. But what matters the most is that the Church remains faithful to her bridegroom by following the only infallible standard ever written for the selection of civil magistrates. That standard is the Bible, and there is none other that perfectly reflects the mind of God. It is our source book for determining what guidelines must govern the selection of our leaders. 


Some believe that the Bible is silent on the question of what standards should govern the selection of a civil magistrate. But to reach this conclusion is to deny the sufficiency of Scripture and to substitute autonomous human reason for biblical revelation. Others are so fearful of certain outcomes that there is little reasoning with them. These individuals are (no doubt, unwittingly) fixed on specific outcomes, not commitment to biblical guidelines. They want to condemn their brethren by saying that a vote for X is really a vote for Y. Their election fears seem sometimes to rise to a self-righteous hysteria, governed more by emotions than objective standards. None of these approaches are helpful. 


The Bible is the only answer for fearful Christians in an age of politics. The Bible has the answer to the ethical chaos of fear-driven voting, pragmatic voting, “ends-justifies-the-means” voting, and “lesser-of-two-evils” voting. The Bible does not require Christians to vote for perfect candidates, but it does require that Christians support biblically qualified candidates. Biblical Principles of the Ballot Box explores the scriptural standards for selecting civil magistrates and offers great hope for Christians living in an age in which our leaders have broken covenant with the God of their fathers. It explores the blessing presented in Scripture to all who will enter the ballot box with supreme confidence that the Lord sovereignty reigns, that He is more pleased with our obedience than with our rationalistic, extra-biblical voting strategies, and that the greatest hope for America is not found in the outcome of any one election, but in the persevering witness of the Church as God’s representative in America to uphold his non-negotiable standards and righteousness



Best Regards,

David B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane,</p>
<p>I think Doug Phillips really gives us something to think about here - see if you (and others here) don&#8217;t agree.  By what Principle do we cast our vote ?</p>
<p>Who Should Be Lord of Super Tuesday ?</p>
<p>More important than who wins or looses the 2008 election is this: Will Christians look to the Bible as their absolute standard for determining what principles must guide their voting practices? Will the Scriptures govern our thinking and consequently our actions. At stake is far more than the presidency. The question concerns the conscience of the Church. We can “win” an election, and yet sell our spiritual birthright. Conversely, we can “lose” an election, yet remain faithful to the Word of God, thus preserving the conscience of the body of Christ, and enjoying the favor of the Lord. </p>
<p>Elections matter. They matter a great deal. But what matters the most is that the Church remains faithful to her bridegroom by following the only infallible standard ever written for the selection of civil magistrates. That standard is the Bible, and there is none other that perfectly reflects the mind of God. It is our source book for determining what guidelines must govern the selection of our leaders. </p>
<p>Some believe that the Bible is silent on the question of what standards should govern the selection of a civil magistrate. But to reach this conclusion is to deny the sufficiency of Scripture and to substitute autonomous human reason for biblical revelation. Others are so fearful of certain outcomes that there is little reasoning with them. These individuals are (no doubt, unwittingly) fixed on specific outcomes, not commitment to biblical guidelines. They want to condemn their brethren by saying that a vote for X is really a vote for Y. Their election fears seem sometimes to rise to a self-righteous hysteria, governed more by emotions than objective standards. None of these approaches are helpful. </p>
<p>The Bible is the only answer for fearful Christians in an age of politics. The Bible has the answer to the ethical chaos of fear-driven voting, pragmatic voting, “ends-justifies-the-means” voting, and “lesser-of-two-evils” voting. The Bible does not require Christians to vote for perfect candidates, but it does require that Christians support biblically qualified candidates. Biblical Principles of the Ballot Box explores the scriptural standards for selecting civil magistrates and offers great hope for Christians living in an age in which our leaders have broken covenant with the God of their fathers. It explores the blessing presented in Scripture to all who will enter the ballot box with supreme confidence that the Lord sovereignty reigns, that He is more pleased with our obedience than with our rationalistic, extra-biblical voting strategies, and that the greatest hope for America is not found in the outcome of any one election, but in the persevering witness of the Church as God’s representative in America to uphold his non-negotiable standards and righteousness</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>David B</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Chastain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Chastain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

I will do it right here.  With the compact schedule, it is our best hope -- but a slim one -- to keep McCain off the ticket.  I am deeply disappointed, however, that the candidates didn't take my suggestion.  Perhaps, if McCain does not have it wrapped up after Super Tuesday, they will do as I have suggested and run the table.  I would not put my trust in party leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I will do it right here.  With the compact schedule, it is our best hope &#8212; but a slim one &#8212; to keep McCain off the ticket.  I am deeply disappointed, however, that the candidates didn&#8217;t take my suggestion.  Perhaps, if McCain does not have it wrapped up after Super Tuesday, they will do as I have suggested and run the table.  I would not put my trust in party leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Pendleton</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/01/31/mitt-and-huck-time-to-team-up/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Pendleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives need to do everthing possible to get Romney and Huckabee on the ticket.  You should question why the liberal media is so pro McCain.  He's not electable and they are quite aware of it.  If he is nominated it will be Bob Dole all over again...with the exception that this time it will place in the Presidency one of two leftists that will lead the United States quickly into socialism.

Love Jane's commentaries.  She has a very good understanding of the issues and where this is all heading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives need to do everthing possible to get Romney and Huckabee on the ticket.  You should question why the liberal media is so pro McCain.  He&#8217;s not electable and they are quite aware of it.  If he is nominated it will be Bob Dole all over again&#8230;with the exception that this time it will place in the Presidency one of two leftists that will lead the United States quickly into socialism.</p>
<p>Love Jane&#8217;s commentaries.  She has a very good understanding of the issues and where this is all heading.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane,

Great article! Since the conservative vote is split between Huckabee and Romney, McCain has an unrepresentative advantage. To offset this, would you please come out quickly with a recommendation in WND and elsewhere that conservatives vote for whichever conservative is polling better in their particular state. DW foreshadowed this in his comment above (11:40 on Jan 31). The path to the White House for Huckabee or Romney is not necessarily to get a majority of delegates, but together to keep McCain from getting a majority and then for Romney and Huckabee, along with key Republican leaders, to work out a deal to give them both prominent positions in a conservative-led Republican ticket. This may be the most important recommendation you ever make. Please act quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,</p>
<p>Great article! Since the conservative vote is split between Huckabee and Romney, McCain has an unrepresentative advantage. To offset this, would you please come out quickly with a recommendation in WND and elsewhere that conservatives vote for whichever conservative is polling better in their particular state. DW foreshadowed this in his comment above (11:40 on Jan 31). The path to the White House for Huckabee or Romney is not necessarily to get a majority of delegates, but together to keep McCain from getting a majority and then for Romney and Huckabee, along with key Republican leaders, to work out a deal to give them both prominent positions in a conservative-led Republican ticket. This may be the most important recommendation you ever make. Please act quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Chastain</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/01/31/mitt-and-huck-time-to-team-up/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Chastain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your frustration. You are correct, Joseph Farah did an excellent column on both Mitt and Huck.  Check out my columns under "Presidential Race" and you will see that I dubbed Mitt, the "Stepford candidate," early on for his willingness to suddenly  morph into the kind of conservative, most GOP voters said they wanted. I don't cover for anyone!  Mitt's record on social issues is terrible, as is Huck's record on economic issues.  

Mitt has painted himself into a corner on social issues and, whether his recent conversion is real or simply for convenience, I believe, if elected, he will have to govern that way.  If he flipped flopped again, he would be a joke.  However, Mitt's record on economic issues is excellent.  As for Huck, his record on social issues is perfect but he is either confused about whether big government programs can take the place of Christian charity, or he ran as a progressive, (kinder word for hard-core liberal) purely for political expediency.    

Smart people can and do change when presented with facts.  Don't miss the point.  If these men could get together, learn from each other and come to an agreement on these issues, it could be a dream team.  

Have you ever made an big mistakes?  I certainly have.  However, I would feel a lot better about both of these men if they would stop trying to cover up their mistakes and just be straight with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your frustration. You are correct, Joseph Farah did an excellent column on both Mitt and Huck.  Check out my columns under &#8220;Presidential Race&#8221; and you will see that I dubbed Mitt, the &#8220;Stepford candidate,&#8221; early on for his willingness to suddenly  morph into the kind of conservative, most GOP voters said they wanted. I don&#8217;t cover for anyone!  Mitt&#8217;s record on social issues is terrible, as is Huck&#8217;s record on economic issues.  </p>
<p>Mitt has painted himself into a corner on social issues and, whether his recent conversion is real or simply for convenience, I believe, if elected, he will have to govern that way.  If he flipped flopped again, he would be a joke.  However, Mitt&#8217;s record on economic issues is excellent.  As for Huck, his record on social issues is perfect but he is either confused about whether big government programs can take the place of Christian charity, or he ran as a progressive, (kinder word for hard-core liberal) purely for political expediency.    </p>
<p>Smart people can and do change when presented with facts.  Don&#8217;t miss the point.  If these men could get together, learn from each other and come to an agreement on these issues, it could be a dream team.  </p>
<p>Have you ever made an big mistakes?  I certainly have.  However, I would feel a lot better about both of these men if they would stop trying to cover up their mistakes and just be straight with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mic Lawler</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/01/31/mitt-and-huck-time-to-team-up/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Mic Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, a man who turns his state into a haven for illegal aliens at the behest of big business and a so called Christian Compassion that uses the power of government office to betray his own county then lies about it and still lies about to this day has already displayed the lack of judgment and moral turpitude to be the President of this country. You talk about helping the poor ? Mike Huckabee's idea of helping the poor is Socialism and taxes which he is also lying about. He may be a Christian but he's not getting my vote. Someone with the necessary authority needs to call him aside and rebuke him.
 
 
And Mitt, he's as phony as a three dollar bill. None of the so called conservative powerhouse radio personalities and web masters (except for Joe) are willing to bring up how Mitt single handedly opened Massachusetts to gay unions and even worse than that his amoral pandering to the gay lobby has opened Massachusetts elementary schools to the perverting of the innocent children of decent people through gay propaganda. Yeah he's such a great family man ... maybe to his own family but you can forget the rest of us. 
 
I could write alot more about these two but it's late and I've got to get bed. Hopefully I'll sleep well because I won't be thinking of the disaster awaiting our nation and it's people at the next national election.
 
These guys are a disaster and McStain is even worse. There isn't anyone left to vote for. I'll probably write in "none of the above".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, a man who turns his state into a haven for illegal aliens at the behest of big business and a so called Christian Compassion that uses the power of government office to betray his own county then lies about it and still lies about to this day has already displayed the lack of judgment and moral turpitude to be the President of this country. You talk about helping the poor ? Mike Huckabee&#8217;s idea of helping the poor is Socialism and taxes which he is also lying about. He may be a Christian but he&#8217;s not getting my vote. Someone with the necessary authority needs to call him aside and rebuke him.</p>
<p>And Mitt, he&#8217;s as phony as a three dollar bill. None of the so called conservative powerhouse radio personalities and web masters (except for Joe) are willing to bring up how Mitt single handedly opened Massachusetts to gay unions and even worse than that his amoral pandering to the gay lobby has opened Massachusetts elementary schools to the perverting of the innocent children of decent people through gay propaganda. Yeah he&#8217;s such a great family man &#8230; maybe to his own family but you can forget the rest of us. </p>
<p>I could write alot more about these two but it&#8217;s late and I&#8217;ve got to get bed. Hopefully I&#8217;ll sleep well because I won&#8217;t be thinking of the disaster awaiting our nation and it&#8217;s people at the next national election.</p>
<p>These guys are a disaster and McStain is even worse. There isn&#8217;t anyone left to vote for. I&#8217;ll probably write in &#8220;none of the above&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Chastain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Chastain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo,

I agree!  However, the tables are now being turned and there is an attempt by the Huckabee camp to mislead voters about where Mr. Romney now stands on the issues.  Enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo,</p>
<p>I agree!  However, the tables are now being turned and there is an attempt by the Huckabee camp to mislead voters about where Mr. Romney now stands on the issues.  Enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree that a Mitt/Huck ticket would be dynamite. However, as an Iowa voter who chose Huckabee over Romney, Mitt needs to take the first step to mend fences. He savaged Huck in Iowa and turned me and others against him. 

I still prefer Mitt over McCain. The ball is in Mitt's court. Mend fences with Huck!

Leo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree that a Mitt/Huck ticket would be dynamite. However, as an Iowa voter who chose Huckabee over Romney, Mitt needs to take the first step to mend fences. He savaged Huck in Iowa and turned me and others against him. </p>
<p>I still prefer Mitt over McCain. The ball is in Mitt&#8217;s court. Mend fences with Huck!</p>
<p>Leo</p>
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		<title>By: Randall in Louisiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall in Louisiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane wrote:

"A Republican has to be right on national defense issues to get the GOP nod. That is why Ron Paul, despite his principled stand on constitutional issues, will not be able to break out of single digits. He simply does not understand the nature of the radical Islamic threat, and most Americans aren't willing to accept his hold-your-fire-until-we-see-the-whites-of-their-eyes strategy." 

Jane, please consider reading Congressman Paul's writings and viewing his discussions and speeches.   www.ronpaul2008.com

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;A Republican has to be right on national defense issues to get the GOP nod. That is why Ron Paul, despite his principled stand on constitutional issues, will not be able to break out of single digits. He simply does not understand the nature of the radical Islamic threat, and most Americans aren&#8217;t willing to accept his hold-your-fire-until-we-see-the-whites-of-their-eyes strategy.&#8221; </p>
<p>Jane, please consider reading Congressman Paul&#8217;s writings and viewing his discussions and speeches.   <a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.ronpaul2008.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul2008.com</a></p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn C. Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn C. Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year's political race has a number of political candidates who are convinced they have the answer to our nation's problems.  As I read Mitt and Huck: "Time to Team UP!" by Jane Chastain and some of the comments of the bloggers, I was convinced of one thing, everyone thinks that they have the right answer on how to solving America's problems.  

I was especially interested in what Pastor Walter Bartel had to say.  He starts out assuming that he knows how much the writer knows.  Having had some discussions with her concerning many subjects, I have found her to be extremely knowledgeable about many subjects.  

I think that most people agree, including the Mormon candidate, that Mormonism is a cult.  It is anti God as presented by the Bible.  God is the Creator of heaven, earth, universe, and all there is, through His Word Jesus Christ.  Certainly all of the glory belongs to God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.  It is the responsibility of all Christians to give God the glory and be obedient to His Word.

What many Americans, including Jane Chastain, are trying to do is to find the best way to accomplish this goal.  Most people think that they have “the true view” and all the world need to do is to listen to them.  The big problem is that everyone has to answer but they all have different ways of approaching the solution to the problem.         

There is growing belief that the time of the rule of the anti Christ is near.  Many discerning Christians believe the anti Christ is a living person living in the European Union who will mobilize the Arab and European countries in a united attack on Israel this will necessitate the return of Christ to save the Jews.

Glenn C. Patterson, D Phil
Retired United Methodist Minister</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year&#8217;s political race has a number of political candidates who are convinced they have the answer to our nation&#8217;s problems.  As I read Mitt and Huck: &#8220;Time to Team UP!&#8221; by Jane Chastain and some of the comments of the bloggers, I was convinced of one thing, everyone thinks that they have the right answer on how to solving America&#8217;s problems.  </p>
<p>I was especially interested in what Pastor Walter Bartel had to say.  He starts out assuming that he knows how much the writer knows.  Having had some discussions with her concerning many subjects, I have found her to be extremely knowledgeable about many subjects.  </p>
<p>I think that most people agree, including the Mormon candidate, that Mormonism is a cult.  It is anti God as presented by the Bible.  God is the Creator of heaven, earth, universe, and all there is, through His Word Jesus Christ.  Certainly all of the glory belongs to God The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.  It is the responsibility of all Christians to give God the glory and be obedient to His Word.</p>
<p>What many Americans, including Jane Chastain, are trying to do is to find the best way to accomplish this goal.  Most people think that they have “the true view” and all the world need to do is to listen to them.  The big problem is that everyone has to answer but they all have different ways of approaching the solution to the problem.         </p>
<p>There is growing belief that the time of the rule of the anti Christ is near.  Many discerning Christians believe the anti Christ is a living person living in the European Union who will mobilize the Arab and European countries in a united attack on Israel this will necessitate the return of Christ to save the Jews.</p>
<p>Glenn C. Patterson, D Phil<br />
Retired United Methodist Minister</p>
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