Comments on: How McCain can woo Conservatives AND keep Independents http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:25:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: David B http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-429 David B Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:14:00 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-429 JOhn: Got it, sir. Did you read my earlier comments above ? 5th letter down.... To reiterate, both the Constiution Party and the Libertarian Party are planning to draft Ron Paul, if he will accept either Parties proposal. Ergo, they ARE endorsing him, the only question is will it be reciprocal ? Time will tell. In Dr. Paul's mind - guessing here - it probably has a lot to do with winning his Texas house seat & the GOP convention & surrouding events this summer..... DB JOhn:

Got it, sir. Did you read my earlier comments above ? 5th letter down….

To reiterate, both the Constiution Party and the Libertarian Party are planning to draft Ron Paul, if he will accept either Parties proposal.

Ergo, they ARE endorsing him, the only question is will it be reciprocal ? Time will tell.

In Dr. Paul’s mind - guessing here - it probably has a lot to do with winning his Texas house seat & the GOP convention & surrouding events this summer…..

DB

]]> By: JOhn http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-427 JOhn Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:16:27 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-427 David B Ron Paul has NEVER voted for anything that could possibly be against the original intent of the Constitution. The Constitution party is a joke if they don't endorse Ron Paul. They apparently talk the talk, but only Ron Paul walks the walk. David B
Ron Paul has NEVER voted for anything that could possibly be against the original intent of the Constitution. The Constitution party is a joke if they don’t endorse Ron Paul. They apparently talk the talk, but only Ron Paul walks the walk.

]]> By: David B http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-426 David B Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:46:47 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-426 I just checked back, to read the added comments - I'm trying to guage the general reaction of Principled conservatives (wnd.com tends to draw them....) to the candidacy of John McCain. Jane, it seems like your comments are not very sanguine about the chances of McCain to 'shore up' and mollify us grassroots conservatives. To say the least ! John McClain above gives a strong case that McCain is entirely Socialist, not even semi-republican. Boy, isn't that a change from what we were offered last time 'round ! An unvarnished Globalist / Socialist, not even the merest fig leaf of pretending to be a serious conservative or Christian this time. I guess our uncritical acceptance of GWB, sent the message that we Christians & Conservatives had gone totally asleep. Take a look at a very legitimate alternative, the Constitution Party. Check out their platform, and see if these standards don't mirror much of what you hold dear: www.ConstitutionParty.com DB I just checked back, to read the added comments - I’m trying to guage the general reaction of Principled conservatives (wnd.com tends to draw them….) to the candidacy of John McCain.

Jane, it seems like your comments are not very sanguine about the chances of McCain to ’shore up’ and mollify us grassroots conservatives. To say the least !

John McClain above gives a strong case that McCain is entirely Socialist, not even semi-republican.

Boy, isn’t that a change from what we were offered last time ’round ! An unvarnished Globalist / Socialist, not even the merest fig leaf of pretending to be a serious conservative or Christian this time.

I guess our uncritical acceptance of GWB, sent the message that we Christians & Conservatives had gone totally asleep.

Take a look at a very legitimate alternative, the Constitution Party. Check out their platform, and see if these standards don’t mirror much of what you hold dear:

http://www.ConstitutionParty.com

DB

]]> By: JOhn http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-425 JOhn Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:26:38 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-425 In reply to Tom the Catholics comment "but vote for him I must", Yes, Tom, you must vote for McCain because all the hoyty toyty media rulers and party leaders are telling you to. Just like all the leaders convinced the crowd to vote for Barabas. You will vote for McCain instead of Ron Paul. Go with the mob Tom. Thats always the safe thing to do. Take Ron Paul to the cross. In reply to Tom the Catholics comment “but vote for him I must”, Yes, Tom, you must vote for McCain because all the hoyty toyty media rulers and party leaders are telling you to. Just like all the leaders convinced the crowd to vote for Barabas. You will vote for McCain instead of Ron Paul. Go with the mob Tom. Thats always the safe thing to do.
Take Ron Paul to the cross.

]]> By: Paul http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-424 Paul Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:37:43 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-424 John McCain will never focus on illegal immigration, nor will he keep his promise to build the fence and implement employer sanctions if elected. This is all just electioneering on his part in an attempt to get the conservative base back on board. I grew up in a union household but consider myself a populist/conservative. I have voted Republican in most election since Reagan vs Carter. but voted democratic prior to Ronald Reagan's campaign for president. I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances, the man is an abomination and has all but destroyed freedom of political speech in this country. It is ironic that a person can utter the most disgusting epitaphs and engage in the most anti American diatribes but cannot voice a political opinion 60 days prior to an election. No, I will not vote for John McCain under any circumstance. The Republican establishment has given us another in a series of miserable and disastrous candidates. They began with Gerald Ford, then gave us Bush I, Bob Dole, Bush II, and finally John Mccain. Can anyone tell me what difference there is between these guys and Bill Clinton or Barack Obama? I thought not, they are all one and the same, unimaginative little men with no vision, who will do the bidding of their international corporate masters no matter how much it damages the country and its people. Even Newt Gingrich, a staunch Republican, referred to Bob Dole as the tax collector for the welfare state. John McCain will never focus on illegal immigration, nor will he keep his
promise to build the fence and implement employer sanctions if elected. This
is all just electioneering on his part in an attempt to get the conservative
base back on board. I grew up in a union household but consider myself a populist/conservative. I have voted Republican in most election since Reagan vs Carter. but voted democratic prior to Ronald Reagan’s campaign for president.

I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances, the man is an abomination and has all but destroyed freedom of political speech in this country. It is ironic that a
person can utter the most disgusting epitaphs and engage in the most anti
American diatribes but cannot voice a political opinion 60 days prior to an
election.

No, I will not vote for John McCain under any circumstance. The Republican
establishment has given us another in a series of miserable and disastrous candidates.
They began with Gerald Ford, then gave us Bush I, Bob Dole, Bush II,
and finally John Mccain. Can anyone tell me what difference
there is between these guys and Bill Clinton or Barack Obama? I thought not, they are all one and the same, unimaginative little men with no vision, who will do the bidding of their international corporate masters no matter how much it damages the country and its people. Even Newt Gingrich, a staunch Republican, referred to Bob Dole as the tax collector for the welfare state.

]]> By: John McClain http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-423 John McClain Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:26:58 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-423 Dear Ms. Chastain, I have a lot of respect for your opinion, I find myself agreeing with you on most issues as we both believe in the Constitution, but today, I have to differ with you. I think you are exactly right on the border issue, and I hope that it could bring aboard republicans and independents who believe border security is a literal "no brainer", but doing that would not be enough to bring me to vote for him. I lost all my respect for Senator McCain as a "public servant" when he sponsored that un-Constitutional "McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act", and while that act stands, I cannot vote for anyone who had a part in it. It has been one of the most brazen, egregious assaults on our first amendment rights made, since I was politically aware. Were McCain honest enough to claim his democratic credentials, he wouldn't even be on the horizon, far less the presumptive republican party contender. I simply cannot vote in for president, one of two people who has perpetrated one of the greatest power grabs in our recent history. There was a time when one could honestly state that the republican party was the party of the adults, while the democratic party was the party of the adolescents, but both parties have completely compromised their principles and neither can be an honorable recipient of my vote. I want to vote for someone for a change, and I can't do that if Senator McCain is a candidate unless he is the democratic candidate, as would be fitting, given his proclivities. This nation need a dramatic change in the way we do politics, and the "McCain-Feingold act" is only the latest, most egregious attack on our natural rights, not the only one. As long as this act stands, we have been deprived of substantial and important rights as sovereign citizens, and it seems ridiculous to me to even consider voting for one of the architects of suppression of political speach when it is of the most use and value. I understand about compromise, I've had to do a lot of it as a Marine, as a father, as a husband, and as a member of my community, but I draw the line at compromising on my principles. I will not vote for any politician who has worked to impose un-Constitutional laws that directly impact political speach leading up to and during an election. Of all the things the first amendment was written to protect, political speach was first, last and always, so unless Senator McCain recognizes his signal failure, makes a statement that gives credence to the idea that he really understands that his work was not only wrong, but a violation of his oath of office, I will not vote for him. I have watched this man through the eyes of a career Marine, and he has never shown fortitude in supporting the principles of a "federated republic", but has in fact, used his credentials to remove such support at every opportunity. He is not even semi-republican, but entirely socialist in his outlook, and has no real place in the politics of this Nation. At least a lizard queen victory would be a president that believes in what she is saying. We have let some well qualified candidates get tossed out by party apparatchiks such as Alan Keyes, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, all of whom believe in the actual words of the Constitution, and we have retained instead, all the politicians who can speak out of the same side of their mouth that the Clintons do. Absent a republican on the presidential ticket in November, I will be writing in my choice for president. I will not vote for Senator McCain as that would be rewarding a seated Senator for one of the most egregious violations of principle I have observed since the Nixon years. Sincerely, John McClain GySgt, USMC, ret. Vanceboro, NC Dear Ms. Chastain,
I have a lot of respect for your opinion, I find myself agreeing with you on most issues as we both believe in the Constitution, but today, I have to differ with you.
I think you are exactly right on the border issue, and I hope that it could bring aboard republicans and independents who believe border security is a literal “no brainer”, but doing that would not be enough to bring me to vote for him.
I lost all my respect for Senator McCain as a “public servant” when he sponsored that un-Constitutional “McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act”, and while that act stands, I cannot vote for anyone who had a part in it. It has been one of the most brazen, egregious assaults on our first amendment rights made, since I was politically aware.
Were McCain honest enough to claim his democratic credentials, he wouldn’t even be on the horizon, far less the presumptive republican party contender. I simply cannot vote in for president, one of two people who has perpetrated one of the greatest power grabs in our recent history. There was a time when one could honestly state that the republican party was the party of the adults, while the democratic party was the party of the adolescents, but both parties have completely compromised their principles and neither can be an honorable recipient of my vote.
I want to vote for someone for a change, and I can’t do that if Senator McCain is a candidate unless he is the democratic candidate, as would be fitting, given his proclivities. This nation need a dramatic change in the way we do politics, and the “McCain-Feingold act” is only the latest, most egregious attack on our natural rights, not the only one. As long as this act stands, we have been deprived of substantial and important rights as sovereign citizens, and it seems ridiculous to me to even consider voting for one of the architects of suppression of political speach when it is of the most use and value.
I understand about compromise, I’ve had to do a lot of it as a Marine, as a father, as a husband, and as a member of my community, but I draw the line at compromising on my principles. I will not vote for any politician who has worked to impose un-Constitutional laws that directly impact political speach leading up to and during an election. Of all the things the first amendment was written to protect, political speach was first, last and always, so unless Senator McCain recognizes his signal failure, makes a statement that gives credence to the idea that he really understands that his work was not only wrong, but a violation of his oath of office, I will not vote for him.
I have watched this man through the eyes of a career Marine, and he has never shown fortitude in supporting the principles of a “federated republic”, but has in fact, used his credentials to remove such support at every opportunity. He is not even semi-republican, but entirely socialist in his outlook, and has no real place in the politics of this Nation. At least a lizard queen victory would be a president that believes in what she is saying.
We have let some well qualified candidates get tossed out by party apparatchiks such as Alan Keyes, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, all of whom believe in the actual words of the Constitution, and we have retained instead, all the politicians who can speak out of the same side of their mouth that the Clintons do. Absent a republican on the presidential ticket in November, I will be writing in my choice for president. I will not vote for Senator McCain as that would be rewarding a seated Senator for one of the most egregious violations of principle I have observed since the Nixon years.
Sincerely,
John McClain
GySgt, USMC, ret.
Vanceboro, NC

]]> By: Tom Moffitt http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-422 Tom Moffitt Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:43:24 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-422 Hi Jane I enjoyed your column but I have to take exception to you obvious belief Mc Cain would actually do anything he considers against his personal philosophy. As an Independent voter with strong conservative beliefs I can assure you the only way John could even get me to consider him is to commit himself and his administration to going after the employers of illegal's. Arizona is a fine example of illegal immigrants voluntarily returning to Mexico when they lost their jobs. By-the-way this would also address the obsession of MSM with "the economy stupid" mantra. By illegal's voluntarily emigrating back to their country of origin, we could actually EMPLOY AMERICAN CITIENS with all the attendant benefits. Otherwise, I am afraid we will just have to suffer whatever consequences await. Hi Jane

I enjoyed your column but I have to take exception to you obvious belief Mc Cain would actually do anything
he considers against his personal philosophy. As an Independent voter with strong conservative beliefs
I can assure you the only way John could even get me to consider him is to commit himself and his
administration to going after the employers of illegal’s. Arizona is a fine example of illegal immigrants
voluntarily returning to Mexico when they lost their jobs.

By-the-way this would also address the obsession of MSM with “the economy stupid” mantra. By
illegal’s voluntarily emigrating back to their country of origin, we could actually EMPLOY AMERICAN
CITIENS with all the attendant benefits.

Otherwise, I am afraid we will just have to suffer whatever consequences await.

]]> By: Tom http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-418 Tom Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:59:58 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-418 Regardless our affiliation be it Republican, Conservative, Independent or non-enroled we must now accept the reality of McCain. This does not mean we loose our voice however. I too, as a Catholic, have many many issues with McCain and dread the thought of voting for him, but vote for him I must. To maintain my dignity and epress my displeasure with the party operatives I will execue a write-in ballot. This will help ensure McCain gets elected but the party's will NOT benefit from the vote. This approach will ensure what reamins of the party's will hear the deafining roar of the people. Do vote for the candidate of your choice, but do it via a write-in ballot. Regardless our affiliation be it Republican, Conservative, Independent or non-enroled we must now accept the reality of McCain. This does not mean we loose our voice however.

I too, as a Catholic, have many many issues with McCain and dread the thought of voting for him, but vote for him I must.

To maintain my dignity and epress my displeasure with the party operatives I will execue a write-in ballot.

This will help ensure McCain gets elected but the party’s will NOT benefit from the vote. This approach will ensure what reamins of the party’s will hear the deafining roar of the people.

Do vote for the candidate of your choice, but do it via a write-in ballot.

]]> By: JOhn http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-417 JOhn Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:28:54 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-417 So, even after supporting every single amnesty bill, you would believe McCain if he simply came out and said "I'm against all this illegal immigration"? Thats like saying Hillary would win if she just came out and claimed she was against Nazi health care. Besides, the problem with McCain isn't just immigration, it is a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISREGARD for the Constitution. McCain Feingold means the media will pick our presidents from now on. (see AnnCoulters column for an explanation) He doesn't think Congress has to declare wars, he thinks "Education" is a power granted to the Feds. He has no problem with illegal searches, police state, nanny state, big Government... Let a Real Conservative Small Government Republican like Ron Paul, oh, but McCain Feingold gave the media the power to pick our Government. McCain should be shot as a traitor - an enemy to the Republic. I am a true small Government lover of the COnstitution conservative, and I'll vote for Obama before I'll vote for McIdiot. So, even after supporting every single amnesty bill, you would believe
McCain if he simply came out and said “I’m against all this illegal
immigration”?
Thats like saying Hillary would win if she just came out and claimed she was
against Nazi health care.
Besides, the problem with McCain isn’t just immigration, it is a COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISREGARD for the Constitution. McCain Feingold means the media will pick our presidents from now on. (see AnnCoulters column for an explanation) He doesn’t think Congress has to declare wars, he thinks “Education” is a power granted to the Feds. He has no problem with illegal searches, police state, nanny state, big Government… Let a Real Conservative Small Government Republican like Ron Paul, oh, but McCain Feingold gave the media the power to pick our Government. McCain should be shot as a traitor - an enemy to the Republic. I am a true small Government lover of the COnstitution conservative, and I’ll vote for Obama before I’ll vote for McIdiot.

]]> By: Matthew Feeley http://janechastain.com/2008/02/21/how-mccain-can-woo-conservatives-and-keep-independents/#comment-416 Matthew Feeley Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:08:46 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=74#comment-416 re "How can McCain woo Conservatives AND keep Independents Ms. Chastain, Are you at all concerned that Senator Clinton will lose a primary with 35 to 40% of the vote and still receive many more total votes than Senator McCain and Gov. Huckabee combined? I think we should prepare ourselves for an Obama victory in November. re “How can McCain woo Conservatives AND keep Independents

Ms. Chastain,
Are you at all concerned that Senator Clinton will lose a primary with 35 to 40% of the vote and still receive many more total votes than Senator McCain and Gov. Huckabee combined? I think we should prepare ourselves for an Obama victory in November.

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