Comments on: Girl Scouts to the Troops: “We’re NOT radical!”

By: commercial lighting

commercial lighting — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:44:09 +0000

Well done This was a excellent written piece. Do go on when you are. I shall be excitedly waiting around.

By: Yvonne

Yvonne — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:15:05 +0000

Debby,

Parts of your post cound have been written by me when I was in my 20s — so I fully understand and empathize with the life experiences that have led you to that viewpoint. However, I’ve come to realize that functional families take care of one another — through cooking, sewing, or anything else that needs to be done. It’s not so much doing it for a (gasp!) MAN — it’s working with your spouse to nurture and strengthen the family unit. Or doing it for your kids if there’s no spouse.

I respectfully offer that your strong reaction to learning basic skills has more to do with your mindset than the actual events. Boy Scouts learn similar skills and I doubt they are on a rampage about being expected to be perfect men taking care of WOMEN.

By: Lisa

Lisa — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:44:52 +0000

Debby wrote: “I was a Brownie for an HOUR when I was a child because of all the indoctrination that we should be perfect little women and learn to cook and sew to make a MAN happy!”

Maybe you should have stayed in a little longer — the point was that you should learn to cook and sew so that you would be self-sufficient and be responsible for you OWN happiness.

As for being a lemming — there’s not much individual thinking in man-hating feminism.

By: Debby

Debby — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:30:06 +0000

Have you people all become mindless lemmings???? Whatever happened to telling our girls they are special and unique?? I was a Brownie for an HOUR when I was a child because of all the indoctrination that we should be perfect little women and learn to cook and sew to make a MAN happy! I’m only 30 now and that just goes to show you that it wasn’t that long ago that this was still going on. When I had my oldest child who is now 10 and a Junior in GS having come up from the Daisy level I swore that I would not put her into the mindset that she had to make a man happy in order to be happy and that was why I TOOK OVER THE GIRL SCOUT TROOP she joined when she bagan. BY THE WAY…… I’M PAGAN!!!!!! Shocked yet!??! Well you should be, because of my own individual mind, my troop has had the highest retention of any in my area. And for those of you lemmings who are falling off your chairs thinking “Oh My GOD, She’s warping the minds of our sweet innocent little girls” there is NO DISCUSSION of GOD or GODDESS in my troop but we do say the promise EXACTLY as it was given to us without the *. I lead my troop with the girls as my guides. They plan the meetings and activities, they decide what we will do as a community service project and if one of them asks a sensitive question, I direct it back to the parents. I do not try to warp these children, Goddess knows their parents have already done a stellar job all on their OWN!

By: Janice

Janice — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:35:07 +0000

These YouTube videos appeared recently and raises some alarming questions about what the heck is going on at GSUSA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q03SeASYTlI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnZ02QwnI0s

By: Janice

Janice — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:25:06 +0000

Has anyone had a chance to read through the items up for vote at the upcoming GSUSA convention?

http://www.girlscouts.org/convention/doc/Proposal_1.pdf

It sounds as if they are trying to set the stage for more control at the board level and less at the local level …

By: The Old Girl Scout

The Old Girl Scout — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:25:31 +0000

For pity sake, if you are going to denounce the organization, get the name right. “GSA” is the Gerontological Society of America, an organization of which I am a proud member. Girl Scouts of the United States of America, GSUSA, is another organization of which I am a proud member. Before you tout “what Girl Scouts used to aspire to be”, go back and read Juliette Gordon Low’s original works. There is much to be celebrated about Juliette, not the least of which was her courage welcoming girls from every background, faith, and ability, and teaching them that girls have a great deal to offer the world.

By: Kerry C

Kerry C — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:51:14 +0000

Just wanted to chime in and let everyone know that there is a new conservative alternative to Girl Scouts available to all girls who believe in God regardless of their faith. Frontier Girls goes back to the basis of what Girl Scouting was supposed to be. We focus on patriotism, communtiy service and a love of learning. We offer badges in more subjects than any other program (currently at over 150) including badges for character traits such as modesty, joy, and responsibility. If you have girls, you really need to visit our website at http://www.frontiergirls.com

By: brahmakumaris.info

brahmakumaris.info — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:39:50 +0000

I documented in more detail the beliefs and practises of the so-called Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University in other post on this subject.

http://janechastain.com/2008/07/17/the-girl-scouts-journey-to-the-new-age/

It should be added that as this year’s annual series of channelling sessions, when the spirit entity the Brahma Kumaris believed to be the God Father of all religions and the “angelic form” of their deceased founder Lekhraj Kripalani entered into their psychic medium at their Indian headquarters, they (BapDada) specifically encouraged the Brahma Kumari adherents to target children and schools.

This is being done through “values education” or relaxation programs aimed at children and stress or management programs for involved adults. Individuals are introduced into hypnotic or auto-hypnotic states in which various cathexes or connections are created to their spirit guide, often sub-consciously. These lay the foundations for greater mental surrender in the future from which the leadership profits.

With relationship to Christianity; uniquely, but in accordance with other new age groups, the Brahma Kumaris teach that like their founder Kripalani, Jesus was “possessed” by another spirit called Christ and that after death both continued to take numerous reincarnations degrading and becoming spiritually impure until this day when at some point they will return to a Brahma Kumari center in order to relearn their religion for the next 5,000 year Cycle of Time.

Its not necessary to understand Hindi language, but there are numerous visual introductions produced by the organization on Youtube and elsewhere that evidence such beliefs, the reality of “Destruction” and the godliness of their founder, who they also consider to be the Father of Humanity.

One should not over look the organization’s political ambitions. The leadership predicts that the government of India will hand over power them before Destruction and they are particularly active within the United Nations. An involvement used, or arguably exaggerated, to impress newcomers and give credibility to their belief and practices.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ktWXmfQF8DU&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uNxNTO_sbxI&feature=related

By: Brenda Murtha

Brenda Murtha — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:01:14 +0000

Wow! have any of you actually read the Journey books?
I took a training class for adults this afternoon on the the new Journey program. I am not actually sure what you mean by “New Age” but there was nothing in the books that I found offensive. Let me start by saying that the new Journey program is a new program piece offered by GSUSA it’s not maditory, it does not replace any of the existing program pieces but compliments them. I admit I only scanned the books, but I am conservative by nature and Catholic by faith I found nothing offensive in the books I found them both interesting aand thought provoking for the age level they were meant for. God and our Constitution preaches tolerance for others and only He can be the judge of our actions on earth and out constituation preaches freedom of religions and the right to free speech. As for the Ashland Institute, I do not see theire influence here, GSUSA may go in many directions but ultimatly them must bend to the membership, the volunteers and gilrs are Girl Scouts.