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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/11/20/girl-scouts-farther-down-the-road-to-new-age/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to Stacy's comment back in November.  This was brought to my attention this morning and I wish to address it.  Please do not give Frontier Girls a plug by bashing another organization.  AHG is a wonderful program and not at all "thumpy."  They are simply a Christian organization that is not afraid to admit it.  They do not promote the "barefoot and pregnant" adgenda either and I highly respect them.

For those interested in Frontier Girls, we are a conservative merit badge based program that focuses on patriotism, character building, leadership and a love of learning.  We offer more than 150 different badges and are adding more everyday.  You can find us at www.frontiergirls.com, but I highly recommend you also check out American Heritage Girls at www.ahgonline.org and fully researching the Girl Scout program as well before making any decisions so that you find the program that is right for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to Stacy&#8217;s comment back in November.  This was brought to my attention this morning and I wish to address it.  Please do not give Frontier Girls a plug by bashing another organization.  AHG is a wonderful program and not at all &#8220;thumpy.&#8221;  They are simply a Christian organization that is not afraid to admit it.  They do not promote the &#8220;barefoot and pregnant&#8221; adgenda either and I highly respect them.</p>
<p>For those interested in Frontier Girls, we are a conservative merit badge based program that focuses on patriotism, character building, leadership and a love of learning.  We offer more than 150 different badges and are adding more everyday.  You can find us at <a href="http://www.frontiergirls.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.frontiergirls.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.frontiergirls.com</a>, but I highly recommend you also check out American Heritage Girls at <a href="http://www.ahgonline.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.ahgonline.org');" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahgonline.org</a> and fully researching the Girl Scout program as well before making any decisions so that you find the program that is right for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's an article that will make your stomach turn:
http://www.lapiana.org/resources/cases/mergers/12_2001.html

It's a case study on how Girl Scout mergers happen and how staff and volunteers are manipulated into accepting change -- whether they are positive or negative.  Sounds like the mafia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an article that will make your stomach turn:<br />
<a href="http://www.lapiana.org/resources/cases/mergers/12_2001.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.lapiana.org');" rel="nofollow">http://www.lapiana.org/resources/cases/mergers/12_2001.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a case study on how Girl Scout mergers happen and how staff and volunteers are manipulated into accepting change &#8212; whether they are positive or negative.  Sounds like the mafia!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Washington Post recently printed an article that was prompted by GSUSA.  The result was a piece that clearly pushed the Journeys over badges, and called for younger leaders.  The organization currently has a problem recruiting enough leaders to cover the number of girls who want to join troops -- what do they hope to achieve by alienating the very volunteers that are the backbone of the organization?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/01/AR2009030102281.html?hpid=topnews</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Washington Post recently printed an article that was prompted by GSUSA.  The result was a piece that clearly pushed the Journeys over badges, and called for younger leaders.  The organization currently has a problem recruiting enough leaders to cover the number of girls who want to join troops &#8212; what do they hope to achieve by alienating the very volunteers that are the backbone of the organization?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/01/AR2009030102281.html?hpid=topnews" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.washingtonpost.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/01/AR2009030102281.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: cailin</title>
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		<dc:creator>cailin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to say you're off the beaten track. First of all I worked at the National Sessions (strictly business stuff) and it was not how you picture the first days events.

Lets face it we do need to say we are a global world. The flags were done different from what I understand to follow the International body that is affiliated with the GSUSA.  WAGGAGS is the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts. WAGGAGS Members were representing 29 nations at the convention.

As to the journey books - these are "extra" programs. Not the only program materials available to leaders.  Leaders do realize that not all girls can thrive on the journey books materials.

As to the asterick in the promise - it was done to help bring more girls into the fold - its a diversity change.

Lastly, the Catholic Church is affiliated with the GSUSA for a good reason.  They recognize the needs for programs like this for the girls to achieve higher goals.

As to the Boy Scout stuff - for shame the BSA's programs for co-ed stuff where I live starts at age 14.  Where's the girl supposed to be before that? Barefoot &#38; pig ignorant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to say you&#8217;re off the beaten track. First of all I worked at the National Sessions (strictly business stuff) and it was not how you picture the first days events.</p>
<p>Lets face it we do need to say we are a global world. The flags were done different from what I understand to follow the International body that is affiliated with the GSUSA.  WAGGAGS is the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts. WAGGAGS Members were representing 29 nations at the convention.</p>
<p>As to the journey books - these are &#8220;extra&#8221; programs. Not the only program materials available to leaders.  Leaders do realize that not all girls can thrive on the journey books materials.</p>
<p>As to the asterick in the promise - it was done to help bring more girls into the fold - its a diversity change.</p>
<p>Lastly, the Catholic Church is affiliated with the GSUSA for a good reason.  They recognize the needs for programs like this for the girls to achieve higher goals.</p>
<p>As to the Boy Scout stuff - for shame the BSA&#8217;s programs for co-ed stuff where I live starts at age 14.  Where&#8217;s the girl supposed to be before that? Barefoot &amp; pig ignorant?</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the lesbian agenda question:
Three years ago, I attended Girl Scout summer camp Butterworth in Ohio with my then 3rd grader.  It was a long weekend, however, after many failed attempts at getting in this camp, we were pretty excited.  Thank God I was with her. Throughout the weekend, there was a counselor there who was "in charge".  A gifted singer and talent, at first look appeared to be a maintainance man.  She tromped through camp hugging younger councelor girls with bugle boy glasses, men's shorts and her breasts were full, but taped close to her breast.  Her legs were not shaved and sported dark hair.  Her hair was cut short, and slicked back.  Now, I am not a bigot.  I have a long track record in Human Resources to prove it.  By the end of camp, she cornered me (after I had to pretend to fry like bacon to get a piece) and on Sunday morning and asked me if I enjoyed camp that weekend.  I said yes. She then proceeded to ask me for marital advice for her and her "life partner" right in front of my third grader. Well, at this point, I was just plain shocked and upset, and the PMS side of me lashed out.  I told her any talk of life partners in front of children was just plain inappropriate.  I told her I wanted to talk to someone in charge.  She said "That would be me" and smiled smugly. I went home, answered the life partner question as best I could and then compiled a long letter to the council. They told me they were an equal opportunity employer and there was nothing they could do about this.  The lesbian was in charge alright, and I promptly took my daughter OUT of Girl Scouts.  You see, for girls, they need a safe camp experience and she told me "if it makes you feel any better, most lesbians aren't petifiles.  Whatever.  I told her most lesbians aren't role models either and hung up.  Now, come on GSUSA, wake up and smell the coffee.  You are serving a minority of the world with this agenda and your relationship with Planned Parenthood is a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the lesbian agenda question:<br />
Three years ago, I attended Girl Scout summer camp Butterworth in Ohio with my then 3rd grader.  It was a long weekend, however, after many failed attempts at getting in this camp, we were pretty excited.  Thank God I was with her. Throughout the weekend, there was a counselor there who was &#8220;in charge&#8221;.  A gifted singer and talent, at first look appeared to be a maintainance man.  She tromped through camp hugging younger councelor girls with bugle boy glasses, men&#8217;s shorts and her breasts were full, but taped close to her breast.  Her legs were not shaved and sported dark hair.  Her hair was cut short, and slicked back.  Now, I am not a bigot.  I have a long track record in Human Resources to prove it.  By the end of camp, she cornered me (after I had to pretend to fry like bacon to get a piece) and on Sunday morning and asked me if I enjoyed camp that weekend.  I said yes. She then proceeded to ask me for marital advice for her and her &#8220;life partner&#8221; right in front of my third grader. Well, at this point, I was just plain shocked and upset, and the PMS side of me lashed out.  I told her any talk of life partners in front of children was just plain inappropriate.  I told her I wanted to talk to someone in charge.  She said &#8220;That would be me&#8221; and smiled smugly. I went home, answered the life partner question as best I could and then compiled a long letter to the council. They told me they were an equal opportunity employer and there was nothing they could do about this.  The lesbian was in charge alright, and I promptly took my daughter OUT of Girl Scouts.  You see, for girls, they need a safe camp experience and she told me &#8220;if it makes you feel any better, most lesbians aren&#8217;t petifiles.  Whatever.  I told her most lesbians aren&#8217;t role models either and hung up.  Now, come on GSUSA, wake up and smell the coffee.  You are serving a minority of the world with this agenda and your relationship with Planned Parenthood is a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: GS Troop Leader</title>
		<link>http://janechastain.com/2008/11/20/girl-scouts-farther-down-the-road-to-new-age/#comment-1220</link>
		<dc:creator>GS Troop Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read the artcle and also all of the posted comments.  
I am not familiar with the author, Jane Chastain, but this article and her tag line (politically direct) give me a clear idea of her standings. 
I am a Lifetime Girl Scout member.  I was in Girl Scouts from 1 - 9 grades and have also been a Troop Leader for nearly 12 years.
While I, personally, do not view all of Jane Chastain's points in the same light as she does, I must say that I, too, have been concerned and also disenchanted with the general direction that the Girl Scouting program has taken over the past several years: specifically with regard to the new "format" they have adopted for earning badges &#38; awards and (while I do usually understand and sometimes even applaud) their amazingly energetic efforts focused on new membership enrollment with younger girls (Kindergarten - 3rd grades), minority and underprivileged individuals, and various other 'creative enrollment' practices, I have become increasingly disappointed and saddened with what I see as their nearly non-existent efforts to appeal to potential new teenage girls and (I think even more importantly) retain the current teenage members that they have.
I am so glad my nearly seventeen year old daughter is lucky to be having two different Scouting experiences by being involved in both Girl Scouting and the BSA's Venturing programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read the artcle and also all of the posted comments.<br />
I am not familiar with the author, Jane Chastain, but this article and her tag line (politically direct) give me a clear idea of her standings.<br />
I am a Lifetime Girl Scout member.  I was in Girl Scouts from 1 - 9 grades and have also been a Troop Leader for nearly 12 years.<br />
While I, personally, do not view all of Jane Chastain&#8217;s points in the same light as she does, I must say that I, too, have been concerned and also disenchanted with the general direction that the Girl Scouting program has taken over the past several years: specifically with regard to the new &#8220;format&#8221; they have adopted for earning badges &amp; awards and (while I do usually understand and sometimes even applaud) their amazingly energetic efforts focused on new membership enrollment with younger girls (Kindergarten - 3rd grades), minority and underprivileged individuals, and various other &#8216;creative enrollment&#8217; practices, I have become increasingly disappointed and saddened with what I see as their nearly non-existent efforts to appeal to potential new teenage girls and (I think even more importantly) retain the current teenage members that they have.<br />
I am so glad my nearly seventeen year old daughter is lucky to be having two different Scouting experiences by being involved in both Girl Scouting and the BSA&#8217;s Venturing programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently delivered a speech to a boy scout unit..I titled it: The Wind versus the Lion..The wind being PC and the Lion being Teddy Roosevelt. TR is hated by the left today more than ever for he never strayed from the beaten path of decency and common sense.As he always declared: there are things I can do ,cant do and simply won't do!.and another " even a half step towards evil is wrong!" The boys scouts ,like their Founder is fighting the good fight..Remember TR is the only president who earned the Congressional medal of honor for courage and the Nobel peace prize for common sense..we need both virtues in this present crusade.....Nino</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently delivered a speech to a boy scout unit..I titled it: The Wind versus the Lion..The wind being PC and the Lion being Teddy Roosevelt. TR is hated by the left today more than ever for he never strayed from the beaten path of decency and common sense.As he always declared: there are things I can do ,cant do and simply won&#8217;t do!.and another &#8221; even a half step towards evil is wrong!&#8221; The boys scouts ,like their Founder is fighting the good fight..Remember TR is the only president who earned the Congressional medal of honor for courage and the Nobel peace prize for common sense..we need both virtues in this present crusade&#8230;..Nino</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how the Girl Scouts have changed!  Upon studying the original handbook written by Juliette Lowe "How Girl can Help their Country" she writes of her vision and that vision is rarely found in Girl Scouting of today.
Duties: #1 Be womanly - none of us like women who ape men.It is better to be a real girl such as no boy can possibly be.  
        #5 Be good mothers - some time when you are grown up and have children of your own to bring up you will have to know what good to give them, how to look after their health, how to make them strong and how to teach them to be good, hardworking, honorable citizens in our big growing country.
        #11 patriotism - you belong to the United States of America one of the great world powers for enlightnement and liberty.  It did not just grow as circumstances chanced to form it.  It is the work of your forefathers who spent brains and blook to complete it.  In all that you do think of your country first.
Hint to instructors p.117 Sunday- In Christian countries all Girl Scouts should without fail, attend Church or Chapel....
Juliette Lowe was an avid Bible reader (her red leather bible was given to her by her mother) and she sought God's guidance through her study.  
Yes Daisy (Juliette's nickname) loved nature, was enthralled with "indian" life and knew young girls had great potential.  She loved scouting - the ideals of patriotism, respect, reverence, the importance of learning life skills and humility.  A far shot from the "It's a girl's life - live it" egocentrism of today's Girl Scouts.
PS the new girl scouts allow for atheists, wiccans, new age spiritualists and others to lead girls and influence their lives - what would Daisy really do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how the Girl Scouts have changed!  Upon studying the original handbook written by Juliette Lowe &#8220;How Girl can Help their Country&#8221; she writes of her vision and that vision is rarely found in Girl Scouting of today.<br />
Duties: #1 Be womanly - none of us like women who ape men.It is better to be a real girl such as no boy can possibly be.<br />
        #5 Be good mothers - some time when you are grown up and have children of your own to bring up you will have to know what good to give them, how to look after their health, how to make them strong and how to teach them to be good, hardworking, honorable citizens in our big growing country.<br />
        #11 patriotism - you belong to the United States of America one of the great world powers for enlightnement and liberty.  It did not just grow as circumstances chanced to form it.  It is the work of your forefathers who spent brains and blook to complete it.  In all that you do think of your country first.<br />
Hint to instructors p.117 Sunday- In Christian countries all Girl Scouts should without fail, attend Church or Chapel&#8230;.<br />
Juliette Lowe was an avid Bible reader (her red leather bible was given to her by her mother) and she sought God&#8217;s guidance through her study.<br />
Yes Daisy (Juliette&#8217;s nickname) loved nature, was enthralled with &#8220;indian&#8221; life and knew young girls had great potential.  She loved scouting - the ideals of patriotism, respect, reverence, the importance of learning life skills and humility.  A far shot from the &#8220;It&#8217;s a girl&#8217;s life - live it&#8221; egocentrism of today&#8217;s Girl Scouts.<br />
PS the new girl scouts allow for atheists, wiccans, new age spiritualists and others to lead girls and influence their lives - what would Daisy really do?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Response To Ana: The information is not ill informed. Those who allow such propaganda to cloud their vision accuse those who point out the truth of bigotry. What would have been evil about having a traditional American flag ceremony in AMERICA!? Are we not the United States of America? We should then have every right to be proud of our country and give the flag the respect it deserves. Any organization that would disrespect the flag and all it stands for needs to be call out for the problem that it is.

So I wonder, could the fact that you are so involved with the program mean that you have allowed it to desensitize you to what is really going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Response To Ana: The information is not ill informed. Those who allow such propaganda to cloud their vision accuse those who point out the truth of bigotry. What would have been evil about having a traditional American flag ceremony in AMERICA!? Are we not the United States of America? We should then have every right to be proud of our country and give the flag the respect it deserves. Any organization that would disrespect the flag and all it stands for needs to be call out for the problem that it is.</p>
<p>So I wonder, could the fact that you are so involved with the program mean that you have allowed it to desensitize you to what is really going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Leader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 1943 edition of &lt;cite&gt;Leadership of Girl Scout Troops, Intermediate Program&lt;/cite&gt; says right here on pages 349&#8211;350&lt;blockquote&gt;Girl Scouting is non-sectarian &#8212; open to girls of all faiths. That is to say, it is open to all those who find the Girl Scout Promise and Laws in agreement with their own moral and spiritual ideals of living. Girl Scouting recognizes the value of religious training and therefore encourages every girl to be a better member of her own religious group.&lt;/blockquote&gt;In other words, Girl Scouts have been able to promise to serve Buddha, and the “Judeo Christian tradition on which the Girl Scouts was founded” has been missing since at least 1943.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 1943 edition of <cite>Leadership of Girl Scout Troops, Intermediate Program</cite> says right here on pages 349&ndash;350<br />
<blockquote>Girl Scouting is non-sectarian &mdash; open to girls of all faiths. That is to say, it is open to all those who find the Girl Scout Promise and Laws in agreement with their own moral and spiritual ideals of living. Girl Scouting recognizes the value of religious training and therefore encourages every girl to be a better member of her own religious group.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, Girl Scouts have been able to promise to serve Buddha, and the “Judeo Christian tradition on which the Girl Scouts was founded” has been missing since at least 1943.</p>
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