Comments on: Christians and Government http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/ Fri, 18 May 2012 03:47:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Tim McGuire http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2316 Tim McGuire Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:21:25 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2316 Those who preach Romans 13 need to pay attention to Psalms 94:20. Our Father has NOTHING in common with this throne (government) that has framed manifold mischiefs by statute. Those who preach Romans 13 need to pay attention to Psalms 94:20. Our Father has NOTHING in common with this throne (government) that has framed manifold mischiefs by statute.

]]> By: Bobby Hawk http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2276 Bobby Hawk Fri, 22 May 2009 08:33:14 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2276 First, I can not believe you would quote a philosopher, especially after what Paul so apply taught in Colossians 2:8. The issue we are facing is the application of Hegelian doctrine as law. I'm sure in California, you folks have heard of progressives. But have you ever looked into where their beliefs are founded? Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Humanists etc. are all founded on the doctrine of G Hegel (a German instructor of philosophy). Since we do not view Hegel's doctrine correctly, its is assumed not to be religion. However, take one minute to look at this doctrine, you will see very quickly it is a governmental/religious system. We as Christians should never accept this religious doctrine. We need to be involved in government. We need to bring light to the fact that our government is establishing law respecting this Hegelian religion. Be salty, be bold, make a difference. We can create laws in this US that are based on our Christian convections, just as long as we don not create law respecting the establishment of a US Government, Christian church system (as the church of England). This is what our forefathers meant in the 1st amendment. So get out there, get involved, be salty, be bold, make a difference. Stop the Hegelians from establishing their religion as law. Christians should form watch dog groups to engage voters in the law of the land, its our responsibility to get involved, Its our responsibility to oppose in the name of our Christian beliefs. If we don't fight now, we will become part of the one world order that is being formed under the Hegelian doctrine. Ever wonder why Communist, Socialists (progressive) countries all wear red and bear red icons and standards (flags)? Ever heard of the great red beast (Revelation 17, 13, 12), One world order? One world peace? One world government? One world religion? This Hegelian doctrine is the basis of this mans attempt at this one world order. This is where we are being taken. Socialist International calls it "globalization". One world, lead by the United Nations through socialism (Hegels doctrine). One world wide religion lead by the United Nations through the Unification church. This is where Barack Obama and his administration is taking the USA. Do you Christians want to give up your belief? In this system, you will be forced to be Socialists and forced to be of the Unification Church. or else suffer as an outcast. So now more than ever, Christians must fight for their freedom to be Christian or accept defeat and become a follower of the Hegelian religion. How will you explain that to Christ when he asks you why? First, I can not believe you would quote a philosopher, especially after what Paul so apply taught in Colossians 2:8. The issue we are facing is the application of Hegelian doctrine as law. I’m sure in California, you folks have heard of progressives. But have you ever looked into where their beliefs are founded? Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Humanists etc. are all founded on the doctrine of G Hegel (a German instructor of philosophy).
Since we do not view Hegel’s doctrine correctly, its is assumed not to be religion. However, take one minute to look at this doctrine, you will see very quickly it is a governmental/religious system. We as Christians should never accept this religious doctrine. We need to be involved in government. We need to bring light to the fact that our government is establishing law respecting this Hegelian religion. Be salty, be bold, make a difference. We can create laws in this US that are based on our Christian convections, just as long as we don not create law respecting the establishment of a US Government, Christian church system (as the church of England). This is what our forefathers meant in the 1st amendment.
So get out there, get involved, be salty, be bold, make a difference. Stop the Hegelians from establishing their religion as law. Christians should form watch dog groups to engage voters in the law of the land, its our responsibility to get involved, Its our responsibility to oppose in the name of our Christian beliefs.
If we don’t fight now, we will become part of the one world order that is being formed under the Hegelian doctrine. Ever wonder why Communist, Socialists (progressive) countries all wear red and bear red icons and standards (flags)? Ever heard of the great red beast (Revelation 17, 13, 12), One world order? One world peace? One world government? One world religion? This Hegelian doctrine is the basis of this mans attempt at this one world order. This is where we are being taken. Socialist International calls it “globalization”. One world, lead by the United Nations through socialism (Hegels doctrine). One world wide religion lead by the United Nations through the Unification church. This is where Barack Obama and his administration is taking the USA.
Do you Christians want to give up your belief? In this system, you will be forced to be Socialists and forced to be of the Unification Church. or else suffer as an outcast. So now more than ever, Christians must fight for their freedom to be Christian or accept defeat and become a follower of the Hegelian religion. How will you explain that to Christ when he asks you why?

]]> By: Larry Dorazio http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2271 Larry Dorazio Thu, 21 May 2009 10:26:07 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2271 Jane, I continue to say, it makes no difference who is in government, nothing will change until the moral soul of this nation's people is restored. I believe too many, including Christians, are placing too much faith in government to change things. Governments can change laws but they can't change hearts. Jane,
I continue to say, it makes no difference who is in government, nothing will change until the moral soul of this nation’s people is restored.

I believe too many, including Christians, are placing too much faith in government to change things. Governments can change laws but they can’t change hearts.

]]> By: Monica Brett http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2270 Monica Brett Thu, 21 May 2009 04:19:41 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2270 Well you have hit home Jane. I know there is the division of roads and the one "Less Travelled" It seems that we the Christian have taken the Lesser (easy) Road with no obligation, allowing our duty to country to fail as weak Christians. We must all stand up be counted and hold to the truths of The Constitution and seek God's blessing on this land because we took a stand. Well you have hit home Jane. I know there is the division of roads and the one “Less Travelled” It seems that we the Christian have taken the Lesser (easy) Road with no obligation, allowing our duty to country to fail as weak Christians. We must all stand up be counted and hold to the truths of The Constitution and seek God’s blessing on this land because we took a stand.

]]> By: tina cavazos http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2265 tina cavazos Tue, 19 May 2009 19:42:05 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2265 I remember, about 15 to 20 yr. ago the churches would say if you love God ,do not get into politics. Now we are pay for it. I remember, about 15 to 20 yr. ago the churches would say if you love God ,do not get into politics. Now we are pay for it.

]]> By: Jeff http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2259 Jeff Fri, 15 May 2009 22:22:54 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2259 Jane, I agree . . . Christians should be involved at every level of politics and the Church as well. I think pastors should voluntarily give up their tax exempt status so they can speak freely and be involved in politics without fear of retribution from the government. After all, the Church isn’t a building, it’s the faithful. With our silence, we are giving the left a pass. I do not see that as a good thing. Jane, I agree . . . Christians should be involved at every level of politics and the Church as well. I think pastors should voluntarily give up their tax exempt status so they can speak freely and be involved in politics without fear of retribution from the government. After all, the Church isn’t a building, it’s the faithful. With our silence, we are giving the left a pass. I do not see that as a good thing.

]]> By: Bro'Ken Klasterhous http://janechastain.com/2009/05/15/christians-and-government/#comment-2258 Bro'Ken Klasterhous Fri, 15 May 2009 22:15:32 +0000 http://janechastain.com/?p=371#comment-2258 Thank you, Ms. Chastain! I have been arguing all along that in this government, our highest power is a piece of paper, not those rapacious elected officials. You have pushed it one better, and accurately - we, the people, are the highest power, not our embezzling employees. I also like your idea of a political committee in a church. That sounds like a ministry made for me, although I would have to pray for discernment and objectivity. This I find very difficult with a president (if he is qualified, we don’t know yet) like the one we have. God bless you, Bro’Ken Thank you, Ms. Chastain! I have been arguing all along that in this government, our highest power is a piece of paper, not those rapacious elected officials. You have pushed it one better, and accurately – we, the people, are the highest power, not our embezzling employees.

I also like your idea of a political committee in a church. That sounds like a ministry made for me, although I would have to pray for discernment and objectivity. This I find very difficult with a president (if he is qualified, we don’t know yet) like the one we have.

God bless you,

Bro’Ken

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