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	<title>Comments on: Tiller and his Assassin:  The similarities</title>
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		<title>By: warren bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>warren bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to disagree with you on one of the commandments. thou shalt not kill is really thou shalt not murder. killing in the bible is indeed authorized in the bible under certain circumstances. indeed, the right of self defense is a god given right. most people fail to relaize that god himself has used murder and genocide. the jews were insructed to wip out the race inhabiting the promised land when they moved into the area. becuase the israeli king disobeyed the order and allowed the wife of the slain king to survive god punished the jewish people. jesus never advocated that turning the other cheek meant one had to give up the rife to life. according to the bible, jesus will return as judge not lamb this time around. learn the bible, read it. then you will know when you have written something that makes you look foolish and unwise. tiller made tens of millions off of killing babies. he got what he deserved. on judgement day he will be spending his eternity in a very hot place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to disagree with you on one of the commandments. thou shalt not kill is really thou shalt not murder. killing in the bible is indeed authorized in the bible under certain circumstances. indeed, the right of self defense is a god given right. most people fail to relaize that god himself has used murder and genocide. the jews were insructed to wip out the race inhabiting the promised land when they moved into the area. becuase the israeli king disobeyed the order and allowed the wife of the slain king to survive god punished the jewish people. jesus never advocated that turning the other cheek meant one had to give up the rife to life. according to the bible, jesus will return as judge not lamb this time around. learn the bible, read it. then you will know when you have written something that makes you look foolish and unwise. tiller made tens of millions off of killing babies. he got what he deserved. on judgement day he will be spending his eternity in a very hot place.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A murderer murdered a mass murderer. 
The act cannot be justified if you are Christian.
This man Tiller was a monster. The church is totally off base to not hold him accountable for his actions. That is what Christians do. All of this is so in sync with the rest of the madness in our country. We are not going to survive if we do not get busy doing something other than rain dancing. Many are afraid of Obama and his lackeys. I am seeing and understanding more each day why. All of this is very scary but we must stand in the gap. Who will go for us, Send me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A murderer murdered a mass murderer.<br />
The act cannot be justified if you are Christian.<br />
This man Tiller was a monster. The church is totally off base to not hold him accountable for his actions. That is what Christians do. All of this is so in sync with the rest of the madness in our country. We are not going to survive if we do not get busy doing something other than rain dancing. Many are afraid of Obama and his lackeys. I am seeing and understanding more each day why. All of this is very scary but we must stand in the gap. Who will go for us, Send me!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Dorazio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Dorazio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane,
I am torn between emotion and intellect.  Were I on Roeder&#039;s jury, I would be tempted to exercize my right of jury nullification and vote &quot;not guilty&quot;.  However, intellect and my belief in God&#039;s using government to keep order would cause a &quot;guilty&quot; vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,<br />
I am torn between emotion and intellect.  Were I on Roeder&#8217;s jury, I would be tempted to exercize my right of jury nullification and vote &#8220;not guilty&#8221;.  However, intellect and my belief in God&#8217;s using government to keep order would cause a &#8220;guilty&#8221; vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Chastain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Chastain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.M.

At that time the Children of Israel were governed by God himself. God handed down the laws and they were administered by Moses, the priests and the elders  

After they were settled in the &quot;land flowing with milk and honey&quot; they asked for an earthy king and God granted their request.

In New testament times, a new definition of the relationship between God&#039;s people and human governments was required and that definition is found in Christ&#039;s teaching, which is illustrated in Acts and further explained in the Epistles.

The bible makes it clear that we are to submit to human authority and be good citizens.  The only exception would be with human and divine authority conflict, then the Christian must obey the higher authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.M.</p>
<p>At that time the Children of Israel were governed by God himself. God handed down the laws and they were administered by Moses, the priests and the elders  </p>
<p>After they were settled in the &#8220;land flowing with milk and honey&#8221; they asked for an earthy king and God granted their request.</p>
<p>In New testament times, a new definition of the relationship between God&#8217;s people and human governments was required and that definition is found in Christ&#8217;s teaching, which is illustrated in Acts and further explained in the Epistles.</p>
<p>The bible makes it clear that we are to submit to human authority and be good citizens.  The only exception would be with human and divine authority conflict, then the Christian must obey the higher authority.</p>
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		<title>By: T.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thou shall not murder&quot; is one of the Ten Commandments of God. The Bible prohibits individuals from punishing another for wrongdoing, no matter how grave. However, it supports using the judicial system to punish those who commit crimes.

Jane, I’m curious. If the bible prohibits murder for wrongdoing, no matter how grave then how did Phinehas get a covenant of peace by the Father himself for this:

Num 25:6  And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought to his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 

Num 25:7  And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; 

Num 25:8  And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly: So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. 

Did he take the law into his own hands? How is this any different than what Tillers’ killer did? God said, “I am the same yesterday, today and forever.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thou shall not murder&#8221; is one of the Ten Commandments of God. The Bible prohibits individuals from punishing another for wrongdoing, no matter how grave. However, it supports using the judicial system to punish those who commit crimes.</p>
<p>Jane, I’m curious. If the bible prohibits murder for wrongdoing, no matter how grave then how did Phinehas get a covenant of peace by the Father himself for this:</p>
<p>Num 25:6  And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought to his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. </p>
<p>Num 25:7  And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; </p>
<p>Num 25:8  And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly: So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. </p>
<p>Did he take the law into his own hands? How is this any different than what Tillers’ killer did? God said, “I am the same yesterday, today and forever.”</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Tiller held accountable by his pastor? I think not, as he was given the position of a Deacon!!! This church was negligent in allowing him to be a Deacon. On the other hand one could only hope that in some way Tiller was moving to correct his lifesyle of killing babies. Maybe as he attended church there was some form of repentance as guilt weighed on his heart (of stone). God will be his final judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Tiller held accountable by his pastor? I think not, as he was given the position of a Deacon!!! This church was negligent in allowing him to be a Deacon. On the other hand one could only hope that in some way Tiller was moving to correct his lifesyle of killing babies. Maybe as he attended church there was some form of repentance as guilt weighed on his heart (of stone). God will be his final judge.</p>
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		<title>By: James M. Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>James M. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how anyone can take any pity on Tiller in any measure. It&#039;s not sad that his life came to a tragic end. I&#039;m glad he&#039;s dead and burning in Hell; the bullet came two or three decades too late as far as I&#039;m concerned. I blasted his church too. The 1st century church would&#039;ve given him the left foot of fellowship right onto the curb. Tiller was a piece of filthy trash and his enablers, The Kansas Governor as well as his church, pastor, wife, contributors, all guilty of the blood of the unborn. He should have been a pariah, but he was an usher, his wife in the choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how anyone can take any pity on Tiller in any measure. It&#8217;s not sad that his life came to a tragic end. I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s dead and burning in Hell; the bullet came two or three decades too late as far as I&#8217;m concerned. I blasted his church too. The 1st century church would&#8217;ve given him the left foot of fellowship right onto the curb. Tiller was a piece of filthy trash and his enablers, The Kansas Governor as well as his church, pastor, wife, contributors, all guilty of the blood of the unborn. He should have been a pariah, but he was an usher, his wife in the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is time for the Christian community to stand up and say what it stands for and against.  I&#039;m not advocating the &quot;Hell fire and brimstone&quot; church of the past, but a lot of that was appropriate.

We Methodists invite all to celebrate communion with us, &quot;who truly and earnestly repent of their sins and are in love and charity with their neighbor.&quot;

That, if taken seriously, eliminates a large number of people from celebrating holy communion with us.

Christians need to give more than lip service to the teachings of God in the bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is time for the Christian community to stand up and say what it stands for and against.  I&#8217;m not advocating the &#8220;Hell fire and brimstone&#8221; church of the past, but a lot of that was appropriate.</p>
<p>We Methodists invite all to celebrate communion with us, &#8220;who truly and earnestly repent of their sins and are in love and charity with their neighbor.&#8221;</p>
<p>That, if taken seriously, eliminates a large number of people from celebrating holy communion with us.</p>
<p>Christians need to give more than lip service to the teachings of God in the bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jane, for the clearest, most concise statement on the tragedy of Tiller. I haven&#039;t read it said any better. God bless you. Keep those columns coming for WND. -Rich.. Hunter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jane, for the clearest, most concise statement on the tragedy of Tiller. I haven&#8217;t read it said any better. God bless you. Keep those columns coming for WND. -Rich.. Hunter</p>
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