Comments on: “Dumb and Dumber” on Arizona Immigration Law

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By: Ellen

Ellen — Thu, 13 May 2010 18:19:36 +0000

Mike Wil: If you are worried about being challenged for your citizenship – get a passport. The only place your citizenship might be challenged is in the cities that sanctuary illegals. If you want to be in that city and you approve the sanctuary then get a passport if you’re worried. In fact, in AZ the license is a proof of citizenship because Arizona requires citizenship papers to get a license. I wasn’t aware of that when I wrote my first response. And, finally, SB1070 does not authorize Arizona police for illegal searches. The law follows the federal law. If the federal law is legal then SB1070 is legal. The law allows for the query of citizenship if the individual is in the process of commiting a misdemeanor or felon. Seems fair to me. If you are walking down the street minding your own business you will not be asked for proof of citizenship. OK so you have stated what’s wrong with my response and you acknowledge that Arizona has a problem but you have not suggested a good solution, only that mine is not. I’m listening!

By: Mike Wil

Mike Wil — Tue, 11 May 2010 19:46:49 +0000

Ellen, “this president” isn’t “buying into” anything – he’s upholding citizens’ constitutional rights. Police can’t randomly punch your license plate number into their database to see if you’re wanted for anything. They can’t pull you over simply to search your trunk. They can’t even search your car for drugs simply because your were speeding, or even if you were drunk. It’s unconstitutional. They need to establish cause.

Likewise, police officers need reasonable cause before asking someone to prove they’re an American citizen. It’s a fine point, I concede, but constitutional protections are in place for good reasons, and I don’t see why anyone should blame Obama for them.

Also, American citizens aren’t required to own a passport, so what will they do when they’re questioned about being a citizen? I agree the illegal alien issue in the states is a big problem but AZ’s new proposal is not a good solution.

By: Ellen Shaw

Ellen Shaw — Fri, 07 May 2010 04:43:35 +0000

Good Job, Jane, on covreing the issues. The problem is simple, the solution complex. Until a state experiences the fiscal disaster of a couple hundred thousand illegals using the state’s resources and not contributing to its income they really have no right to criticize! My feeling is to load these people on busses and distribute them to the states that are screaming the loudest about racial profiling. Let them understand the issue. My granddaughter’s school dropped all it’s extra curricula subjects for next year – no money. Granted the illegals buy product in America but that can’t compare to the drain on Arizona’s budget. The state is suffering. People are dying at the border, drugs in huge quantities are passing into Arizona and we can’t stop it. Obama is laughing at our problems and refuses to acknowlege that this country is at risk. We can do nothing about those who are here until we stop the flow. I won’t accept ever calling these people citizens. They have no right to that status since they are here illegally. But how to you send 30 million people “home” to Mexico when many have been here long enough to settle and to have children who, for some insane reason, get automatic citizenship. So how about we compromise. We make them legal residents, never citizens, never to vote, exportable for crimes committed. They earn this status by accepting service in the US Military, Americorp or Peace Corp for 4 years minimum. They pay taxes, they pay a severe fine (over the 7 years they wait for legal residency status) and they attend English classes in order to pass a residency test in English! Those who commit felons should be incarcerated or exported for a violent crime. I shudder in fear that this congress will approve citizenship for those who entered illegally and have displaced those who wait patiently, for years, for legal entry. One last comment – there may be a risk for those who are citizens or here with legal status but if they can’t understand the problem then are they true Americans? Since when is a driver’s license an indication of legal status in America? It is not. So if Mexican Americans are concerned about a harassing police stop then they can protect themselves with a passport. Every country in the world requires papers on immigrants, visitors, tourists, etc. and you are expected to carry those papers with you at all times. It is also required by the US Government of anyone legally entering this country. Why the double standard? So what is all this yelling about racial profiling. It is simply the old addage that a strong offense is a good defense. But the problem is … this president is buying into it instead of protecting the interests and rights of Americans.

By: Dora

Dora — Fri, 07 May 2010 00:18:07 +0000

This is to Me Myself and I: Arizona was RIGHT in passing that law and IF our government had been doing their JOB that we pay THEM to do, that law would not have been necessary for we would NOT have allowed our country to take in about 30 MILLION illegal aliens. They said in their marches that they were here to take back all the States we won in the Mexican/American war and if you look at the signs they carry, you can SEE that they are here to occupy, not to assimilate and become and American. They are INVADERS and we have been IDIOTS in this country. The Democrats want to give them amnesty for they want their SOCIALIST votes.

By: Clay Byrom

Clay Byrom — Thu, 06 May 2010 23:34:07 +0000

Jane,

It is an apparent inherit weakness of many whites that they won’t do hard manual labor or low, menial type jobs. The solution in regard to this hundreds of years ago was to bring blacks over to the United States from Africa, and now the solution is to have illegal workers from Mexico to do these kinds of jobs. I have a friend who lives in California that knows people that pay illegals from Mexico less than minimum wage for housekeeping, etc, and sometimes they forget to pay them at all. A lot of the problem is greed by whites, but they are overlooking something vital. As Ronald Reagan once said, ‘The simple truth is that we’ve lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive. We ignore America’s lost sovereignty at our own peril.”

By: Jim Dean

Jim Dean — Thu, 06 May 2010 20:19:11 +0000

There are three groups that seem to be missing in this debate about “latinos”.

1. Illegal immigrants also include Moslem Extremists, Asians and other nationalities.

2. Drug smugglers also have free access to our borders.

3. The group almost never mentioned are the “latinos” who are resident Americans who have a difficult time finding a good paying job because of the influx of illegal “latinos”.

A neighbor on my block has traced her family as living in what is now Texas for 16 generations. They were here long before Texas became a state, but suffer from the “latino” low wage illusion.

By: lonegranger

lonegranger — Thu, 06 May 2010 19:45:42 +0000

We need to import more (allegedly illegal) politicians like those in Arizona. They seem to have done a job most American politicians won’t do!